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Can anyone ID this red pine from a cone?

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Red pine family, two needles per bunch, attached by stalk to branch, planted at entrance to a park, so could be landscape or native tree.

 

It doesn't look like an Austrian, Scotch or Jack pine cone to me--could the cone be immature?

 

Thanks! Monica

 

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Nice shot!

 

I'm having a tough time trying to identify this pine by a photo of the cone and needles alone. The needles appear to be too long for a Scotch/Scot pine (Pinus sylvestris) and not long enough for a Austrian pine (Pinus nigra) the cone doesn't have a curved tip and appears to be too open for a Jack pine (Pinus banksiana). What color is the bark? How long are the needles? 

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A. I agree with Steven that we need more info --- bark, needle length, etc.  B. Also need to know where the tree is located --- in Michigan??????   C. If it is a native species and based on Barnes and Wagner, I think it MIGHT be a Scotch Pine (Pinus sylvestris) based on the slightly twisted needles (some of them), the slight spreading from the short sheath, and the cone --- I agree that it is immature, it is definitely not Jack Pine, and it's too long to be just Red Pine (P. resinosa).  Caveat:  Scotch Pine is not native;  it was introduced from Europe and likes it here  :)  and has been generally used as a landscape tree.  It could likely have ended up at a park entrance.  Just my guesses without all the pieces to the puzzle.  Sharon Czaika, Alabaster Bike Path - Native Tree Arboretum (I am not "Breaking Bud" and can't figure out how to change that.)

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The forum software, like many nowadays, classifies posters based on number of posts. "Breaking bud" is the class for fewest number of posts (note everyone in this thread above, except mods, also have "breaking bud" above their avatar). To change it, post often!

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